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Monday, August 5, 2013

Chara Dasha

  • Chara dasha ! an interesting dasha ..... lagnaadi vyayaparyantam bhaanaam charadashaam bruve | tasaat tadeeshparyatam sankhyaamatra dashaam viduh || MEshaadi - tritribhairgnyeyam padamojapade kramaat | dashaabdaanayane kaaryaa gaNana vyutkraaat same ||
  • scholars are of varied opinion wrt " tritribhair gnyeyam "
  • what is tri tri from meshaadi ?
  • Scholar 1 opines ... from aries onwards three three signs should be considered as even or odd and counting should be done for dasha years ,clockwise from rashi to its lord , in case of even rashi and anti clockwise for odd rashis ...
  • so from this point of .. for aries taurus gemini becomes odd and its dasha should be counted forward and for cancer leo virgo counted backwards
  • scholar 2 opines - every rashi be ivided in four padas .. and such pada be considered od and even an counting be done as suggested
  • Scholar 3 opines ... every rashi has stars and each star has four padas and as according to which pada begins in rashi .. even odd be decided and counting be done
  • scholar 4 opines ..each rashi has nine padas of stars involved ,, so a set of three three stars should be taken as even odd an counting be done accordingly ..
  • In absence of bhashya teeka for PARASHAR HORA ShASTRA .. which SCHOLAR should be considered as RIGHT ?
  • WILL ADHYAYANA SWADHYAYA of this SHLOKA give right meaning all by itself
  • NOT KNOWING which is acurate JHORA has given all the varieties by name chara dasha [ PARASHARA ] chara dasha [ KN RAO ] chara dasha [ IRANGATI RANGACHARYA ] paryaya dasha [3 types] narayana dasha
  • if simple application of aries odd taurus even and so is taken ... then use of tri tri seems redundant .
  • yeh topic bouncer to nahi jaraha hai doosro ko ... jara wait kiya
  • to get right version of the chara dasha , we resort to jaimini rishis interpretation of charadasha
  • there is a word 'padakrammat ' which gives clue to the order of dasha ...
  • this one shloka talks of many dashas ...
  • one .. meshadi three three speaks of sets of three rashis .. what are sets of three rashis .. 1> chara 2>sthira 3>ubhaya
  • what is to be known from these sets ... dashabdanayan ... ie flow of dasha in pada krama .. according to chra sthira ubhaya characteristics of rashi ... also the number if years to be knwon by sama oja type of strt dasha
  • how ? jaimini says in his sutras " prathame praakpratyaktvam "
  • for chara rashi it is regular order of dasha ... 2>for sthira rashis "ravitah " ... ravi means ra =2 va= 4 ravi = 24 thats is 42 42 /12 remainde = 6 so for sthir rashi the order of dasha is lagna then 6th rashi from it and so on ..... 3>for ubhaya rashis one must take kendras and then panapharas and then apoklimas in that order .. ie 1 4 7 10 2 5 8 11 3 6 9 12 in that order
  • for all purpose dasha starts from lagna
  • If observed closely one can understand that this dasha is independent of birth time ... and can be calculated with rashi chart
  • some of the importan events of life especially the financial staus and success duration can be judged from this dasha
  • one of the differences with vimshottari dasha with chara dashi is apart from it being rashi dasha .. it is more analysed through the paka and bhoga rashi
  • the rashi from where dasha commences is Paka rashi ... it is dwara of dasha ...and then 1>count from lagna to paka rashi say x number is arrived .. 2> dd x to paka rashi ... 3> this newly arrived rashi is BHOGA RASHI ... as and how the disposition of Paaka and Bhoga rashi ... wrt argala and aspect there will good and bad events in life during that period
  • In nakshatra dashas like udu dasha ... if time of a persons birth is wrong by 5 minutes or so .. the dasha will differ by 24 days .. so while astrologer might think its budha antardasha , saturn may still be running ,.so predictions may go wrong ...... in case of chara dasha as dasha is not dependent on time of birth , it will result in acurate predictions
  • what is your date of birth
  • so your rashi chart is kany lgna , libra - sat , vrischik ketu mars , dhanu -guru , meena - venus sun , mesha - budha , taurus -moon rahu
  • is it right /
  • now lagna is ubhaya rashi .. it is virgo lord mercury ... lagna is 6th rashi from mesha ie even sign .... so counting will be from reverse order .. ie virgo leo to aries ... that makes mercury 6 rashis away from virgo ... so first dasha is of VIRG0 ^ YEARS
  • next the planet in kendra that is gemini ^ 11 years
  • next meena ^ 4 years
  • next dhanu 12 years
  • virgo 6
  • next panaphara leo ^ 8 years
  • next taurus ^ 3 +1 = 4 years
  • next aquarius 9+1 = 10 years
  • next scorpio .^ 12 years
  • sorry scorpio is 1 year
  • even though mars is in own house ketu is also owner of scorpio but scorpio is not its swasthana so one year ..
  • when a planet is in exaltation it gets one year extra
  • so since parashar accepts ketu as scorpios own sign .. so scorpio also 12 years
  • next apokilma signs ... cancer ^ 3=1 4 years
  • sat exalted hai
  • next mesha ^ 8 years
  • next capricorn ^ 4+1 =5
  • next libra 6+1 =7
  • if lord is exalted + 1 year
  • now place the rashis and years in order and tell me which dasha is now currently on
  • to aur bhi jeene ka hai kya
  • virgo 6 + gemini 11 + meena 4 +sg 12 +leo 8 + ta 4 + aq 10 +sc 12 + ca 4 + ar 8 +ca 5 + li 7y
  • for everyhing even and odd applies
  • after april 2005 dhanu rashi dasha is on .....dhanu is 5th rashi .. so5th from dhanu is esha ... paaka is dhanu and bhoga is mesha rashi
  • there are benefic in both planets ... but bhga rashi planet is in shatru sthana so bhoga is weak .. though dasha is good .. its effect is meagerly felt ... paaka rashi is aspectd by saturn ... so initial there will be lot of troubles and then at the end of rashi dasha there will be lots of happiness gains ..and vehciles and a brand new house ..
  • in this dasha there will beenmity with women ..
  • yes kalyani that is right
  • will be enemity
  • future tense hai
  • 9th is exalted to guru ekdum shukra type ka ...
  • dharma sthan accha hai
  • a dasha gives results according to tthe position of dasha karaka planet in gochara at the begining of the dasha .. now since gochara of begining of dasha is exactly knwon in this case when we will get good results best results etc
  • yes jupiter , chararashi it 1 2 3 4 .. sequence or 1 12 11 etc
  • if you see jhora none of the chara dasha options matches the order which is described here
  • yes
  • busines is seventh house . 7th lord is in enemies house aspected by mars and saturn
  • in this dasha it is difficult in first half
  • yes antardasha is there [ that is little complicated ] ..... there is nothing called profession , what is there in astrology is actually mode of earning
  • how and at what times what will be mode of earning ... will be knwon by 10th house and 11 th house
  • mode of earning is seen from navama .. 10th lord in which navamsa according to that planet will be the earing
  • it has to be seen fro both moon sun and lagna
  • 10th lord of rashi chart should be seen
  • means of livelihood karmaajeeva will high or low as per the strength of mars ... if it is low then since saturn is debilitated and with rahu wil give earnings through fraudulent transactions [ banaking accountancy audit , shares , brokerage ,insurance ] ... or through creating disputes between people [ consultancy ,lawyer arbitrator ] or through selling herbs useful in surgery .. or surgical equipments ..
  • vijay since there is no debilitated planet in horoscope . the exaltation effects will not come
  • if mars strength is high then earnings will be from gold , metals , arms , being in military , from creating war etc
  • no mars in mercury's house is weak
  • but mars strength in rashi should be known
  • yes in kaliyuga it is necessary .. in other yugas you would have been in army
  • one planet in deb
  • acche dasha mein good results will come vijay ... but see jupiter has kendradhipatya dosha ., venus is with 12th lord ... moon is aspected by 8th lord ... lagna lord is in 8th .... sat is 6th lord
  • sab 6 8 12 ka hi chakkar hai
  • do remedy on this good results will come
  • sameer such generalise statements do not work in astrology ... waise three planets exalted gives one raaj yoga vijay ko dekha raja aadmi hai , nivant hai ....
  • bas yeh nivant hi usko nahi mangta
  • nivant is mumbiyy for cool
  • venus galat jagah exalted hai
  • isliye ..
  • do planet debilitated makes one dependent in life on one or other for many things
  • such people usually have good sasuraal backup
  • venus in fifth is good ,,, but anywhere venus moon combination [ except seventh ] makes one rich
  • but venus 7th manpasand ladki se bahut dukh dilata hai
  • if youger one has 4th venus exalted than its okay both children will have good bonding
  • but you will never face bad days vijay ... mast mein jindagi jayegi .... ba days do deb wale ko pucho kya hota hai
  • tention nahi .. horoscope potential nahi touch karega yeh bol rahe hai .. potential nahi hai aisa thodi .. ab .. potential asmaan hai aadi pentagon pahuch jayen kuch baat hui na
  • aadi nahi aadmi
  • venus in 12 neend achcha deta hai
  • jo aadmii sukh se soye aur kya chahiye jeevan mein
  • but sameer shani rahu is not good get remedy else you will be in trouble .... get shani and rahu japa .... and homa ....
  • then you venus is astangat
  • moon ars is good aadmi matti bhi bhech sakta hai
  • shukra daitya guru hai na ...
  • rakhshason ke guru yaani rakshasaraaj prahalaad
  • venus is good for you ,had you uploaded your photu after three weeks everyone would have agreed by now
  • kendradipatidosha ka kuch nahi kar sakte tum east bolo patni west bolegi .... tum doobte hue suraj ko dekke khush hone ka adat daal loge
  • you wont have to stand in line
  • aur yaad dilaana bhi nahi chahiye agar khana barabar chahiye toh
  • the more stronger jupiter is the more stronger the dosha
  • no remedy for jupiter kendradhipati dosha ., one has to live with it because in such cases though pertners are right it doesnt strike so
  • kendradipati dosha comes to jupiter and mercury only
  • shubh graha yadi kendra ka adhipati ho to wah shubh nahi kar pata
  • i know of pne similar horoscope where the subject is less educated but father has given everything , wife is good .. yet subject is not happy ... he earns less not enough to carrry on .. [ but better than average families ] , father has given a house , a car . bank balance . and aranged for family grocery monthly for years ... subject is not happy
  • he says he should be earning well .. he wants to go here and there independently do something ... but father says boy even after 10 years you could not do ca , not even peons job you will get .... father is ex chairman of nationalise bank
  • now should this situation where jupiter is doing good be mitigated .... the unhappiness is uncalled for , but kendrahipatya dosha will lament at it day and night
  • yeh banda bhi wohi bolta hai family se kuch support nahi mere aims ke mamale mein
  • paisa toh isko bhi iska baap ek thela nahi deta
  • lekin bhaisaab bunglaw car aur ghabaar chal jaraha hai na .. log yehan kitne hai jo use paane ke liye saari jindagi ghiste hain
  • people with K dosha do not have genuine reason to cry , so no remedies .. like the naranga heroine [ shantaraam's ]
  • navranga
  • in navranga lady cries that her husband is not like others he wastes time in writing poetry imagining some woman , husband laments his wife is not that artistic and imagines his own wife as dancer and writes poetry
  • both become recluse
  • rona dhona to jindagi ab is par kya rona
  • ab dulhan wahi jo piya man bhaye
  • one more case of jupiter kendradipatya is jupiter in meena in 7th seems like heavenly marraige , but no husband thought his wife is psycho [while wife was highly possesive ] somehow even children got convinced mo is psycho , so eventually abandoned .. women became mad and later commited self immolation ... man married again .. can seventh jupiter give such resullts ...
  • kyonji haanji kaise ji jee jee bhar bhar aye
  • i know of a man who had seventh mercury in kanya .. oye yaar woh ghanti nahi baj rahi ... people said this fellow will not listen jabardasti achchi ladki se shaadi kar di .. she was excellent home maker all relatives all friends said an you are lucky .... but this fellow yaar dil me woh ghanti nahi bajarahi
  • change of attitude is medicine vijay for kendradipatya dosha ... to seek good in what we have ...
  • June 15, 2012 at 11:17pm
  • clothes once given a dana with sankalpa i no longer yours .. so no vamaachar with it ..
  • but if you have given and harbour the feeling it i my hirt poor fellow i have given to wear .. then ye it will
  • it is my shirt ...
  • read from the begining ...
  • it does not vary with birth time , it varies only if rashi chart changes
  • so you are also influenced by pt rath and party .... there is a shloka in bphs that ...||kramaadutkramato vaapi dharmabhaavapadakramaat | lagnaraashim samaarabhya vignya chara dashaam nayet ||
  • here dharma bhhava word pt rath has interpreted as 9th house .. so he apllies that dasha order as ninth from the rashi .... tri tri as nine navamsas ... and chara dasha is apllied as navamsa dasa ... which he takes credit as his and gives name as Narayana dasa
  • now there is new somanath dasha also propagated by them
  • see
  • sachin tendulkar has two debilitated planets and two exalted planets ... generally in antardasha of debilitated planet one should fail or left out from team ... [ for any plyer who is not performing well astrologer would say you are running bad vimshottari daha ] but despite two deb planet why achin never got ousted from team or underperformed ...
  • also he played for continuous 20 years all the rahu dasha was going on which i badly placed .. so vimshottari why did it not affect sachin ... how would you answer his success , did he not undergo rough patch .. but it did not affect his career wealth and fame why ?
  • even though saurav ganguly had better horoscope he got ousted from team in sade sati ... and deb mars dasha antar
  • chara dasha is there jhora with six variationa but none are corrrect ..
  • kamal ke bachche bade hue ki nahi
  • yeah my tools are my personal tools ...
  • jhora is good ... for novice astrologers and experts alike
  • NO we use very advanced tools
  • post it in blog i will or send mail
  • health is seen by sthir dashas
  • not by chara dasha
  • kaka ajmerilal
  • not only exalted rashi even rashi lord was exalted
  • wealth success in ventures failures in undertaking are well understood by char dasha .. variations in chara dasha known as paryaya dashas are applicable only to raaj yoga horoscopes ..
  • but debilitated rashi dashas will make life difficult heronwards
  • when two mix planets are there in a rashi .. then there will be good in begining and inauspicious in the end of dasha
  • see you have sthir lagna
  • odd lagna so counting from onwards ... sthir so lagna 6th from lagna 6th from 6 th so on ... so what is fist dasha
  • by the way i am not s/w engg i have engg deg in computer technology
  • first aquarius .. then cancer then saggi then taurrus and libra
  • aquarius kitna ...
  • see jhora irangati char dasha
  • it shoudl match your cae
  • wait .. wher is moon
  • venus aries may hai .. toh libra 7 years
  • okay .. ab kaunsa daha hai
  • kashyap has he left
  • leo /... is sevnth from lagn .... so aquarius is bhog rshi ... leo paaka rshi
  • give chart position here .. for better analysis
  • kashyap see sthir daha of your chart in jhora
  • see bhoga rashi has benefic .. but paaka rashi aspected by sat mars
  • sat mars both aspecting will give troubles .. how much is the vimsopak bala of sun
  • lord is aspected by sat and associated with jup .. mixed
  • so medium bal for sun ... avasth is sam kshetra uchhamukhi
  • no sat is malefic ..in chara dasha only shubh ashubh ..
  • in kalchakra daha one must see lagn alord or twelth lord
  • but you have malefics in 6 and 11 .. so there will be success in undertaking
  • but as venus a benefic i aspecting 3rd .. you will not win in direct cnfrontation in this period .. so it should be avoided
  • from leo
  • since bhoga has benefic and leo is prusthodaya you will get very good result in end of the dasha ..
  • in this dasha .. 4 lord is in 6th .. which is exalted but in sixth // so diffciculties wrt 4th
  • three drekkanas so three parts .. last part is 1/3rd
  • i will resume in evening ...
  • prushtodaya mean those which are born with hips first ... shirshodaya eans those which are born with head first out from womb .... ubhyaodaya are born sideways ..
  • leo ,mesha ,taurus ,first half dhanu
  • is prushtodaya
  • yes first half
  • ketu is malefic /// ee chara is about only shubh ashubh thats all . details from other dashas .. like mental setup fom vimshottari , actual events from kaalchakra ...
  • no moola dasha has ketu rahu .. pinda dasha does not have these
  • kaalchakr dasha gives reult as per shadbala ...md ad all have different parameter for prevailing ...
  • pinda dasha especially antardasha cannot be had though software .. the rules are evry peculiar ...
  • June 17, 2012 at 2:50am
  • June 17, 2012 at 7:35am
  • thoda warm up hojane do .. phir heavy wieght uthathe hain
  • humlog traditional pehelwaan type hai pehle jor bhaitak
  • pehle 100 200 push ups ..
  • aie vijubhai beech ein nimbu paani ka intezaam hai na
  • kk you have to conider your own chart we will conider only yogas in it .. from astro point of you
  • sach kaha ghaas layak cheez hain ,., nimbu hamre liye kah rahe hain
  • how was my day , a plumber came to the house ... to repair the solar , and as he entered the house he saw weights .. [ he was very very thin person ] he put aside all his bag and straight away went to lift 70 kg barbel , but could not , he again tried , after three times he said please sir lift it once i want to see how it looks to lift one ... and there was spark in his eyes
  • so har ek ki khwaish hoti hai woh ek baar barbel uthaye .. Ain !
  • vijubhai barbel try kiya kya baat kya baat hai .. progress haan
  • now rules for chara dasha years
  • In chara dasha ketu is also owner of scorpio and rahu is alo owner of aquarius along with saturn ...
  • the firts rule is number of dasha years for a rashi is the number of signs traversed by LORD of Sign from the sign ...
  • IN case of dual lordship .. ie a sign containing two lord ie scorpio and aquarius ... if both lord are in own house then the dasha years will be 12 years ...... dasha years will not be 12 years if one is in own sign and other in other sign .. then the dasha years will be upto the other lord which is not in own sign
  • counting for lord of the sign from the sign is done [ forward or reverse as per odd or even ]
  • if both the lord are not in own sign then one who is stringer of the two should be taken to give dasha years ... here strength is determined by following rules ..... 1> with planet is stronger [ lord associated with a planet ] ..... 2> if both are associated with planets , then one with more planets is bali .... 3> if both have same number of planets associated then one must see rashi bala ...4> dual sign is stronger than fixed and fixed is stronger than movable .. ie ubhaya is >sthir >chara
  • 5>if sign is also similar strength than one which gives more number of years is stronger ...
  • If one of the two lords is in exaltation than the exaltion lord should be taken ... 1> add one to the exalted contribution .. 2> subtract one to debilitated lord contribution
  • order of tthe dasha will be [ forward or reverse ]as per the even oddness of 9th bhava ...
  • The dasha alwasy starts from lagna rashi
  • kv ji baat ko samjhaane to de
  • chara dasha is for rashi chart only
  • aur office vaas miljaye toh bhi rona ...
  • rahu 16000 ......RS devakeralam ays .. for kumbhalagna irrrespective of horo .. antardasha of jupiter moon mars goes tough
  • if before 15 deg .. 13 years .. if after that 12
  • RS you are not even moving how are is it running
  • yes
  • Now RS go to lagnashtakvarga .. see how many points are there in rashi where venus is
  • yes bhoga is mesha
  • rs 5 is very good so antardasha goes very well
  • now RS add lagnadhipati + fourth lord + 11th lord degrees ... tell me where it is
  • One more hint to interprete the chara dasha .. imagine the dasha period as a tunnel .. entry at dhanu and exit at mesha ... now see what are at entry and exit ... that shows what will be the quality of tunnel .. if there are melefics at both end .. in bad avastha .. then imprisonment , much difficulties . etc
  • add along with signs
  • sat is 79 ' 09 ' 27.28
  • yes now this third house has sat ...
  • this is point for getting job money and happiness ... when jupiter transits this point one gets a good job , money and earnings
  • gemini
  • now see last time when jupiter transited 66deg 120 ... and compare if readings are right ..
  • see what happened when sat transited this point ... as it is sat is already there in natal so troubles to job money and happiness ,
  • break for an hour .. my thoda ghoom ke ata hun
  • what was the period when jupiter transited that rashi ... and sat on that rashi ... things peak by transit on degree
  • add twice
  • for good times it is add 2nd lord + 5lord + 7th lord =
  • add longitude not degrees
  • okay another method is find 10th from moon in ashtakavarga and find sodhy pindas ..and divide by 27 to find nakshatra and rashi .. see if this is taurus
  • after june 20 it will be mars saturn in eight house .... see if that house has any sodhyapinda ...
  • under the moon column see pisces in left
  • there it is 1 point in kanya ..it is a serious problem ...
  • see upha is kanya ... and saturn in this place gives jolt to 10th house results .. upon that 1 point in kanya .. in shani ashtakvarga ... can you see spinning effect .. so till august 20 when saturn moves away .. the problem will persist ...
  • sun jupiter in pisces
  • now see sudarshan chart .. keep 360 days year ... and tell me what is the lagna
  • for this year
  • yashaswai kunal are you applying these to your charts
  • in dasha column .. you will see sudarshan dasha .. see which dasha begins this year
  • where is rahu
  • see the bhava where rahu gets spoiled in that year .. in which year rahu comes 10th
  • now tell me is the efects of karma and astroanalysis RIGHT ?
  • rahu over natal 10th .. before that in sudarshan wherever rahu will be there that house will give problem that year .. this is natal rahu ...
  • so one must club , gochar , ie sphuta transit results + ashtakvarga + sudarshan dasha = to gte exact result
  • astro itna asaan hota ruchikar hota ...par aisa nahi ...hai .. its complex ...Shubha ratari .
  • June 17, 2012 at 2:09pm
  • okay yashaswi is another member
  • longitude means .. virgo 27 deg means 150+27 36'5 = 177 ,36' 05 "
  • start of virgo in degrees
  • RS was all along sounding as if there are bad days to him .. though he is out of job .for two years ,., for these two years he has been donating more than 25000 pm in one form or other to temples every month .. apart from medical expenses that he has to incur on parents and elders ... The fact that he has been sustaining not one two but three years in this manner ... [ not many job goers could afford to donate 25000 pm ] .. is he in GOOD DAYS OR BAD DAYS ?
  • BUT if one looks at posts as if dukhon ka pahaad tut gayaa ho .. thats how the planets ARE , they trouble at one side and reward at other ...
  • Thats how jupiter is 2nd and 11th lord in own house .. It makes one happy and pull on in grand way ... thats LORDs' extreme grace ... he is very pious . even when he is not earning whatever little he gets instead of saving he spends on daana , pooja , remedies abhisheka .. and LORD looks after him ..
  • RS life is great study in itself ... HE is not jobless because he doesnt get one job , after reading the posts on the blog HE has decided once for all HE WILL NOT GO OVERSEAs FOR EARNING ... He gets offers every now and then ... BUt he is not going .. He has decided come what may lets see and face it ...... YET LORD HAS NOT LEFT HIS HAND ... not one day two day its been three years .. miracle in itself isnt it ?
  • June 17, 2012 at 2:52pm
  • seventh lord is with jupiter seventh has beneifc mer that is also a good factor .
  • sadhu sadhu
  • that sums up take one step towards embracing kashta .. an you live better than better times
  • dhanu ? 6 , rest all okay
  • chara dasha only shubh ashubh and jaya parajay and gain loss [ against backrop of general well being ]
  • things to be seen in chara dasha are , type of rashi under operation ... owned by shubh or ashubh ... occupation of rashi shubh ashubh planets... avath of planet occupied .... planet in 5 , 9 from rahsi dasha [ wealth giving konas ] ... planet in 8th .... [ difficulties ] .....
  • the main contention of this dasha is how bad can a position of the person be .. or how good a persons position can be ... once a generalised idea of what position the man is in .... the his further success failures can be decided ...like a national lev
  • in HARis case he is running the dasha of rashi which has planet in svasthana .. so he will be svastha all through ... as it attacked by sat and mars ... there will atempt to destabiise ...
  • 3rd from dashaprada rashi if it has benefics there will failures in new projects asignments .. if malefic there will be success
  • 8 th malefic will give extreme pressures in that period .. fith and 9th benefics will give wealth and recognition malefics will give losses and down fall
  • BADHAKA planet give its results in chara daaha only .. similarly avasthas of planets come into play in chara dasha ... financial gains comes in chara dasha ...rise of fortunes in general can be seen from chara dasha ..

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